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Dr Colin Bannon's avatar

What is it with the Cleveland Clinic? This is not the first time they have done awful studies, there was something similar with COVID vaccination.

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Michele's avatar

Seriously if not getting vaccinated would weed out the fucking gene pool of morons forever. Bring it on. So tired of trying to be logical and calm with these stupid assholes

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Brigid Leahy's avatar

Important for effective persuasive messaging do not repeat the other side’s words. When you do, you unconsciously reinforce their message in your audience’s mind. The image for this article is unconscious reinforcement that the flu shot increases flu cases. There has been plenty of research on this. https://behavioralpolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/BSP_vol1is1_Schwarz.pdf

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Stephan Trump RESISTS in NJ's avatar

That’s its crap. Yea. We know.

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Free Radical's avatar

Cleveland Clinic really embraced "functional medicine" grifting quite awhile ago.

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Jessica Jonikas's avatar

Besides being a poorly designed study that hopefully will not be published post-review, here are facts that the Cleveland Clinic itself educates the public around:

-The effectiveness of the flu vaccine is predicated on scientists anticipating the most prevalent strains for the coming year. It’s not unheard of nor earth shattering that their predictions can be off in a given year. That has happened before, and does not mean that the vaccine doesn’t work.

-Flu shots are given mostly to reduce the severity of illness, in order to prevent hospitalization and death. They don’t always stop transmission. This isn’t new or earth shattering.

-Research shows that the effectiveness of flu vaccines are cumulative. The more we get them, the better our immune response for preventing a severe flu outcome as we age.

-It’s well-established (many, many studies now) that COVID-19 trashes the immune system, including in previously healthy children and adults. So it’s also not surprising that flu (and other viral) outcomes will get worse in the coming years. We are going to see a lot more of this, and yet, very few people will publicly acknowledge the ongoing and highly problematic impacts of COVID on the body (since so many are maintaining the delusion that it’s over or it’s just like a head cold).

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David Tobolowsky MD's avatar

It would also be worth knowing if those with vaccine exemptions are immunocompromised and tend to wear masks or avoid interpersonal contact. In other words, were confounding variables examined?

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Free Radical's avatar

You could have followed the link to the preprint, provided in the first paragraph.

https://vaxopedia.org/2024/07/02/preprint-propaganda-study-about-vaccines/

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